doinmntdew2 02-18-2004, 01:33 PM I have a 550 with everythin electrical made by MSD. Coil,Ignition Module, and Flywheel.
My problem is that it's not getting spark, I have tested via MSD troubleshootiing about module and holding the two green wires together to get a light (which indicates the BOX recieveing signal. How do I test the trigger and coil. My other problem is I can't get my MSD flywheel off, does it pull off using a puller or does it screw off, either way I can't get the sucker off to look at the trigger plate. Any help would be great, jetski season is around the corner.
Doinmntdew2
jetski4free 02-21-2004, 01:46 PM to pull the flywheel, I use a harmonic balancer/ steering wheel puller, I got mine at sears, it works great.
g'luck,
ben
Jetskimechanic 02-22-2004, 10:15 AM Use a Kawasaki flywheel puller that we sell on the website in the tool section...
Never pull the flywheel off from the ring gear area...
jetski4free 02-22-2004, 06:51 PM Doinmntdew2 and Jetskimechanic,
The craftsman harmonic balancerpuller(here: http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00947626000, is the same price, available at your local sears, is of higher quality, comes with a craftsman lifetime guarantee, and a greater number of threaded bolts and attachments for pulling a variety of things (like steering wheels or harmonic balancers for instance).
I've use it many a time, Jetskimechanic and it works fantastic, it doesn't pull by the ring gears, or even taunt them with the threat of damage, it's a craftsman tool and its quality.
ben
TexasRex 02-22-2004, 08:12 PM I bought a Harmonic balance puller for $10 at harbor freight. It also backed by a lifetime GT.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=37714
[Edited on 23/2/2004 by TexasRex]
jetski4free 02-22-2004, 11:00 PM Touche tex touche, the frugal master has been outdone...
TexasRex 02-23-2004, 10:29 AM LOL
That reminded me of that wing master commercial. Dudes got BBQ sauce all over his mug and all his buddies look at him and say, "sorry, your no longer the wing master". The camera pans to another person who has even more BBQ sauce on his face... I think its Dominos or something.
doinmntdew2 02-23-2004, 11:38 AM I have used a puller but the head of one of the bolts broke off, is there anything I can use to loosin it up or is really that tough.
Doinmntdew2
jetski4free 02-23-2004, 01:16 PM I conceed my title to you, Wingmaster Rex, rock on.
you could try a bit of penetrating oil (though it's never worked for me) right around the keyway. Or, and this is the way I do it, attatch the puller and snug 'er down until the bolts are about to break and then give the main screw (the big black one that goes down to the center of the crankshaft) a good solid whallop. Don't hit too hard, becuase I imagine with enough force you could damage bearings or the crankshaft etc... After you hit it once or twice, or three times if you're feeling zealous, snug it down again and repeat until the biznatch pops off.
ben
[Edited on 23/2/2004 by jetski4free]
TexasRex 02-23-2004, 02:19 PM You gotta be carefull cause you dont want to screw the bolts in too far cause they could damage the stator! For sure try heat before I tried to hit anything with a hammer.
If you havnt yet, remove that broken bolt and use another one cause your gonna need all three.
Also you need to make sure that the head you have put on the center shaft of the puller is indeed a smaller diamater than the flywheel otherwise your spinning your wheels.
I have bent a puller but never broken a bolt :o
doinmntdew2 02-24-2004, 08:36 AM Ok, So I went out and bought a puller, and some penetration oil, I put the bolts in well into the flywheel with out hitting the startor plate and I thought it broke free but in fact it pulled the threads out of my MSD flywheel, now what do I do, or can I just test the trigger somehow with out having to pull the flywheel off and chaecking for visual defect.
Doinmntdew2
I'f anyone has a good deal for a used flywheel let me know I might just cut it off, not that I want to though
Doinmntdew2
JoeMcLaughlin 02-24-2004, 05:27 PM Ok, So I went out and bought a puller, and some penetration oil, I put the bolts in well into the flywheel with out hitting the startor plate and I thought it broke free but in fact it pulled the threads out of my MSD flywheel, now what do I do, or can I just test the trigger somehow with out having to pull the flywheel off and chaecking for visual defect.
Doinmntdew2
I'f anyone has a good deal for a used flywheel let me know I might just cut it off, not that I want to though
Doinmntdew2
Do you have a tap and die set? You need to re-tap the holes to the next sive larger. Before you cut it off,,,, it would do you better to pull it (the engine) and send it into a pro.
Joe........
TexasRex 02-24-2004, 06:30 PM Thats real unfortunate :o I have never heard of that ever happening but I guess there is a first for everything. Hell I have even used a slam hammer to try to get those flywheels off and never stripped anything.
Like joe said. If your gonna try it again, Drill out larger and tap it. But given your circumstances, I would think you should pull the engine and have a shop do it for you.
Jetskimechanic 02-24-2004, 09:39 PM Sorry Bro!!! Should of called the Pro at taking flywheels off... I have the best luck with them and have had the worst of them to do...
Do what Joe says and tap the holes the next size...
Do what Rex says... HEAT the flywheel at the hub and wala it's off...
jetski4free 02-25-2004, 01:47 AM so...
johnzigler 02-26-2004, 11:24 PM man i wish you luck, caution you really should never hit the puller or your crank with a hammer. it is hard on your crank and bearings. i have found it best to put the ouller on, "load it" by getting it as tight as you can (without stripping bolt holes) apply heat, more than propane, if it doesn't pop off, walk away, and leave it sit. alot of times i'll come back the next day and it is off and on the bench. like majic. again good luck zig
jetski4free 02-27-2004, 03:11 AM so...
TexasRex 02-27-2004, 09:35 AM aluminum does radiate heat better though and cools much faster than ferrous materals.
Bust out some map gas!
Mr Ziggler has the right idea.
ALOW1 03-16-2004, 05:08 AM I think somebody already said this, but maybe not. When using a gear puller on something and it dont want to come off, try to tighten it up nice and tight and walk away from it for the night. The next day tighten it alittle more. With time it should come off. I know that dont help when you are in a hurry, but if your not you should try that before smacking it with a hammer.
doinmntdew2 03-24-2004, 06:49 AM Just to let you know after a few weeks on the web, I found a guy that sold me a new MSD ignition box (still in the bag) and MSD flywheel, and a new trigger for $120.00. I finally took a dremel tool and cut the old flywheel off. It seams he had used jb weld on the flywheel to connect it to the crank. Should have realized that when I took it apart and there was no nut on the crankshat connecting the flywheel. After a couple of minutes with the dremel tool I popped it off and installed all of my new parts. As of right now my ignition ignites perfectlly, all I have to do now is harness the cables and button everything up, hopefully tonight I whil get it running. I'll let ya know.
Doinmntdew2
jetski4free 03-24-2004, 12:36 PM well WTF! JB Weld to hold a flywheel on, that's messed up man.
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